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Created: Octobera 22, 2002
Latest Update: October 22, 2002
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Commentary on Recent Lectures: October 22, 2002: Freedom to Learn
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Subject of comment in green.
jeanne's commentaries in bright blue.
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From Soc 334: Women in Society
On October 22, 2002, Kristina Ramirez wrote:
Subject: Women in SocietyHi Jeanne, I must comment on Thursday's class. I think that the way the classroom was situated, in a roundtable discussion was awesome. We were able to see one another; it brought communication to a different level. (Sitting in the circle was Pat's idea. I thought the class was too big, but Pat was right.) I am appalled at how the department is responding in the matter of how you teach the class. (I'm not sure what your reference is herem Kristina. The department usually ignores me. Perhaps I said something I don't recall. I suspect they wouldn't approve of the freedom I believe students are entitled to, and I'm sure they diisapprove of my approach to grading; but they do let me do it. Remember that.) As we discussed this issue, it was obvious the way the students were reacting. (Are you referring to the students' complaint that they are graded on grammar, not what they actually learn?) If so, be sure to see I personally believe that you choose what you want to learn. This course does not put pressure on you, as the student. What I do not understand that a lot of students do not know is the power they hold on this university. It is the power to not only challenge you peers, but the instructors as well. For heavens sake, my GPA does not clarify who I am as a student!! Some teachers grade on grammar, others on participation. I think teachers and those in superior authorities need to stop and actually get to know the students and their capabilities. Your technique of teaching is by far the fairest way of grading,since I have been in college. I enjoy your class not only because it is interesting. I feel I step into an environment, where I am not seen as a student who needs to improve on my grammar skills. I am seen as an individual, a woman, who is striving to learn, and to excel, regardless of my minor flaws. Kristina Ramirez
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, jeanne responded:
Kristina, that's very nicely put. I think it's especially important that teachers get to know their students. That is a dilemma when classes are so large. I think our efforts this semester in Women and Society have shown that we can accomplish that, even with large classes. But just maybe my exhaustiion says we need to provide some support help.I think what seems fair about my grading is the choice it allows you and the freedom it provides from fear of tests. I'm trying to measure what you actually have learned. That means, what is going to stick with you after your formal education is over, and what will be useful to you in your own experiences. The pressure of cramming, which all of us do these days, since the fast-track pace forces us to, makes a test more stressful than a valid measure of learning should be. Some people, like my mother used to, freeze with fear at having to take a test. Others learn that testing is a game, learn to play the game well, and that bask on those skills without much real concern for a liberal arts education that will open them to new worlds of learning.
This semester, I've learned how important the comments are to my teaching and grading. They really are permitting me to get to know you, and a permitting you to mull over issues of real importance to us all. Good practice for public sphere discourse on governance.
I think your last sentence: "I am seen as an individual, a woman, who is striving to learn, and to excel, regardless of my minor flaws." says very well what this kind of teaching is all about. We need to come to know and trust each other as learners. We've forgotten how important trust is in learning.
From Soc 367: Sociology of Law
On October 22, 2002, Sarah Thurman wrote:
Subject: peace picture![]()
HI Jeanne! My name is Sarah Thurman, and I'm in your women in society, and law in society class. I wanted to e-mail you about today's discussion in women in society, when we were having an illocutionary discussion about the sniper in the Washington D.C. area. It's been pretty hard lately to watch the news with stories about the sniper, suicide bombings in the middle east, and the growing war that's about to start with Iraq. It can be very overwhelming and very upsetting. So I decided to paint a picture of my feelings. I painted the background black because of the state that the world is in right now. I then painted different size and color peace signs for the hope that I have for our nation and the world. But I also added the question mark for all the questions I have about what's going on, and why it's happing. The question mark also represents what could happen next, since none of us know. Painting the picture helped me calm down and not focus on the news. I believe that the conversation that we had in class today was very helpful, because it told me I'm not the only one scared and worried about the people back east in Washington D.C. area. THANK YOU. Sarah Thurman
I think the discussions are helping us come to know and trust one another, and recognize that we are not alone in these feelings. Maria Pia Lara would say that with each of these discussions we come a little closer to being able to hold reasonable public sphere discourse with one another, and thus come closer to governing our world without the terror and with peace. I think your pictures are wonderful. Perhaps you'd like to send them to some foreign students, who could share our learning with us. jeanne