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Week of November 3, 2002

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  • Student Name: CRMJ/SOCA 233 - Criminology, CRMJ/SOCA 363 Corrections, CRMJ/SOCA 365 Race, Crime, Law



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    On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, Chrissy Knox wrote:
    On the RCI site visit

    I REALLY ENJOYED THE RCI SITE VISIT. IT REALLY GAVE ME A FEEL FOR HOW PRISONERS LIVE EVERY DAY. THE FUNNY THING IS THAT I THINK THAT I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE AT THE PRISON THAN I DID AT THE COUNTY JAIL. I AM NOT SURE WHY, BUT I JUST FELT MORE SAFE THERE, EVEN THOUGH THE PRISONERS WERE WALKING AROUND.

    On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, Nicole Powers wrote:
    On the RCI site visit

    The RCI vsit was very interesting, very informative. I was curious if any of the "white shirts" had ever been assaulted in RCI. I would also like to know more about the conditions in seg and rock.

    krissy and nicole -- good. i'm glad you enjoyed the site visit. be sure to do a debriefing.



    On Wednesay, November 6, 2002, Shawna Lehmann wrote:
    On lecture commentaries

    I was just wondering how do you add to the lecture commentaries on Dear Haubermas? I would like to do this for my competence requirement on todays race and sentencing lecture.

    shawna -- i post the comments on the commentaries page from student emails. i select interesting comments that might generate discussion from others.

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    From CRMJ/SOCA 233: Criminology

    On Monday, November 4, 2002, Caroline Zires wrote:
    On rational choice theory

    I have to say I liked the discussion on Rational Choice. For some people it's kind of an impulse, they don't think about the consequences to their actions. Those are the people who need help, like some kind of treatment. However there are the others who know what they are doing and plan out their crimes. They think they won't get caught. Or they feel the state owes them something, so they don't feel what they do (stealing for instance) is wrong.

    On Monday, November 4, 2002, DeAira Kennemer wrote:
    On rational choice and routine activities theories

    I think that the two theories (Rational & Routine) complement each other because you do indeed have to put some logic in to the routine, you have to know or even think that no one is watching so then you do it, and thats rational.

    caroline and deaira -- based on these theories, what might programs and policies might be developed? why.

    On Thursday, November 7th, Joshua Johnson wrote:
    On theories

    If theories are close and almost the same or they play off of each other to work such as the two theories that we just covered, why don't they put them together and put it under one name??

    joshua -- excellent question! i bet, if routine activities theorists and rational choice theorists would think that they are very different. why don't they pull them together? probably because each scholar wants the credit and recognition for having come up with a "new" theory.

    On Monday, November 4, 2002, Heidi Schneider wrote:
    On victims

    I find it intresting that the handout we recieved about victims talks about how not to be a victim. This also relates to the theories we talked about in class becuase you can modify your self so that you are not a "taget" for a criminal.

    heidi -- good point! we'll be discussing these theories and victimization some more on wednesday.



    On Monday, November 4, 2002, Anel Garza wrote:
    On California's Three Strikes Law

    Regarding the articles you read in class about those two cases of cruel and unusual punishment: I think that it's stupid in a way. I understand the three strikes your out but these cases aren't that serious. I know that what they did is considered a crime but to be locked up for so long? I think an alternative to such a situation is to make them do A LOT of community service, and they should have to pay for the stolen items. Why lock these individuals up, they are just going to be taking up space that will be needed for someone else who comitted a serious crime and is a threat to society?

    anel -- you raise some interesting points. would you like to research California's three strikes law?



    On Saturday, November 9, 2002, Ariel Kaye wrote:
    On Friday's Consumer Behavior Exercise

    I thought the hands on activity we did on Friday was a great example of how money is distributed in society. It was interesting to see how money can and is spent within the upper and extreme lower classes.

    On Saturday, November 9, 2002, Anel Garza wrote:
    On Friday's Consumer Behavior Exercise

    I have to say that I really enjoyed your experiment. I was in the group that had 37 cents for 9 people, we were really poor all we could afford was some bread. It made me look at things differently, I also found it to be very embarrassing when we were trying to buy things and often couldn't afford it having to put it back. Our group tried to take advantage of every free thing we could, and we would always ask what was free. Unlike the other groups that were watching us and laughing at us, obviously we knew that they were wealthier than we were. But it was very interesting to try to stretch out our change to feed all of us.

    ariel and anel -- glad you liked friday's exercise. we'll be discussing this exercise as it relates to the next two crim theories.



    From CRMJ/SOCA 363: Corrections

    Dennis Penza wrote on Monday, November 4, 2002:
    On probation and parole

    Since we are talking about Probation and parole, I went to the Bureau Justice of Stats-www.ojp.htm- and found out that in 2001 nearly 4.7 million adults were on prob or parole. 3,932,800 were on prob and 731,100 were on parole. From 2000 to 2001 the prob and parole population increased 2.5%. Women made up about 22% of prob and 12% of parolees.

    dennis -- good! i'll put this up on the commentaries page for others to read and react to. what do you think of these statistics?



    Julia Starr wrote on Wednesday, November 6, 2002:
    On "Voices from Inside"

    i thought the video was a little weird today, gave me a really strange perception of what they do in there. i did like the parts where they talked about themselves and why they were in there though.

    julia -- wait til friday when you'll see the rest of the documentary and then give me your review.

    Caroline Zires wrote on Wednesday, November 6, 2002:
    On "Voices from Inside"

    i'd like to do that but i figure they might not have the time. I wanted to point out on the video today that all of the women in the video made excuses for their crime. first there was the woman who said she robbed a bank cause she really needed money. then the hijacker who said she did it for her boyfriend. and the lady who said she was an activist. i think they need to take responibility for their actions in order to rehabilitate themselves.

    caroline -- you might want to research some of the unique problems and challenges that female prisoners experience. we'll be focusing on "special populations" with women being one example.

    Jackie Marolt wrote on Thursday, November 7, 2002:
    On "Voices from Inside"

    In the movie that we watched on Wednesday I didn't understand why the woman were in their own clothing and were able to wear jewelry. I thought in prisons people had to wear uniforms and couldn't wear jewelry.

    jackie -- good question. might want to research this prison to find out their dress code policies?

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    From CRMJ/SOCA 365: Race, Crime and Law

    On Monday, November 4, 2002, Veronica Ramirez wrote:
    On the internment of Japanese-Americans and others

    It is really upsetting that the gov't would do such a thing when justice is supposed to be blind. I wanted to research Japanese camps and did, but also found Italian ones as well. It said that those of Japanese decent were apologized to and were even compensated with some money, and that the Italians that had been imprisoned as well had not yet gotten any type of apology. Just in California there were 1,400 Italian Americans that were forced to leave their homes. They had their radios, firearms, cameras and flashlights taken away from them. After three mos. many were allowed to go home, but 250 men were forced to remain at the camps for the next 2 yrs. I think it's really sad when a country can't admit when it was wrong. But then again, African-Americans are still waiting for their apology.

    veronica -- an excellent book related to several points that you have made here is martha minow's Between Vengeance and Forgiveness."

    On Monday, November 4, 2002, Ellen Skora wrote:
    On the internment of Japanese-Americans and others

    i found the movie that was shown in class on friday to be interesting and inspiring. in the midst of discrimination and injustice, the japanesse americans found a way to make the camps somewhat liveable. they formed groups and organizations to make their life as much like it was before as possible. this goes to show how strong a group of people can be even when it seems like all is against them, i think fellman would be impressed by these people but discouraged by those that made them leave their homes and live in camps

    ellen -- if you're interested in reading more on the internment of japanese-americans, i've added some books to our class page as recommended readings. why would fellman be "impressed but discouraged?"



  • On Monday, November 4, 2002, Kim Dexter wrote:
    On Fellman

    Fellman yearns for and urges a balance between adversarialism and mutuality. I summarize his thesis as "playing fair." Having sentencing disparities for powder cocaine users and crack cocaine users is not "playing fair." Sentencing more African-Americans to death, when current statistics show that one out of seven death row inmates is innocent, is not "playing fair." Racial profiling by law enforcement is not "playing fair." Eliminating jurors from a jury based solely on race is not "playing fair." In sports there is generally a winner and a loser, but there are rules that must be followed (usually). When someone disobeys the rules, he/she is labeled a cheater because he/she is not "playing fair." When we don't "play fair" we show a lack of respect for others and an unwillingness to cooperate. When children play, generally anyone caught cheating is not allowed to play anymore. Seems like such a simple concept.

    kim -- i really like your description of fellman -- "playing fair" !!!



    On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, Caroline Zires wrote:
    On Stereotyping

    I also wanted to mention something on todays questions. even though it is wrong for judges to let race play a part in their sentencing, i don't think it will ever go away. i think we all stereo type people. it's wrong, but it is a part of life. we all would be lying if we said we don't ever let these stereotypes affect decisions we make.

    caroline -- i understand your point about stereotyping but is there a way in which a case can be judged on an individual basis rather than stereotyping? why.

    On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, Tim Mostowik wrote:
    On Stereotyping

    i thought class was pretty interesting today, especially when we were giving sterotypes of different race. some of them were pretty funny. but i thought that the one point that a group made was a good point that all sterotypes fit for all races it just doesnt apply to one race.

    tim -- yes, that was a good point. when i was an undergraduate, i had a professor who told the class, "if there's one thing i'd like you to remember: "it's individual differences. if you don't remember anything after you graduate from here, remember individual differences."

    On Thursday, November 7, 2002, Angie Siemers wrote:
    On Stereotyping

    i enjoyed working in groups today discussing stereotypes against different races. i don't think anything of stereotypes because i never hear any for white people. and then when we started discussing stereotypes for white people i felt uncomfortable. it was strange having the role reversed.

    angie -- good observation -- a role reversal! and a good example of putting yourself in the shoes of the Other.

    On Thursday, November 7, 2002, Kim Dexter wrote:
    On Stereotyping

    I was reading Angies Siemers commentary on Dear Habermas. I felt uncomfortable too when we talked about White stereotypes. I wasn't going to mention that because I felt silly for feeling that way,but I don't think I have ever experienced being referred to as a "they" or "them." Even though I know those stereotypes don't apply to me, it bothers me to think that others may apply that stereotype to me.

    kim -- yes, stereotypes and stereotyping of any kind make for very uncomfortable situations.



    On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, Maggie Cronin wrote:
    On public defenders

    Today in class someone made the comment that blacks always loose in court because the public defenders don't care. I disagree. I know a public defender who treats every client like they are innocent and he does whatever it takes to get them off. He takes pride in his job. However, before he goes to trial during the motions he makes sure that noone knows he is a public defender because people are bias toward that. People think because you don't have money you are automatically guilty.

    maggie -- your point is well taken. public defenders are a very important part of the criminal justice process. want to research public defenders?



    On Friday, November 8, 2002, Sarah Rekenthaler wrote:
    On Winners

    today's class was very interesting. It was different. I think it does relate to Fellman in that Fellman say's there shouldn't be winners or losers, and the little quiz that we did just proves that even famous winners don't get remembered.

    sarah -- but who are the real winners? why do we remember them the most?